3.66 Bob Kauflin, Stephen Wellum, David Schrock • Interview • “Worship, Worldliness, and the Way of True Praise”

Episode 140
58 Min
December 30, 2024
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Bob Kauflin on his Christ Over All essay: “Worship, Worldliness, and the Way of True Praise"
Timestamps to Know
  • 00:27 – Intro
  • 04:15 – How Bob Kauflin Was Introduced to Messiah
  • 07:30 – Non-Christians Singing the Scriptures in Messiah
  • 15:00 – John Newton and Handel’s Messiah
  • 18:20 – The Means and Methods for Communicating the Gospel
  • 26:02 – Leaders Should Bring Explanation
  • 30:04 – Un-Training Musicians Out of a ‘Performance’ Mind-set
  • 38:02 – Counsel for Those in the Arts as Their Vocation
  • 43:07 – If Handel Were to Publish Messiah Today
  • 46:14 – Pastoring Those With Gifts that Need to Be Dialed Back
  • 53:00 – How Can We Magnify Christ in Our Focus?
  • 57:16 – Sovereign Grace’s Advent Season
  • 1:00:35 – Closing Thoughts and Outro
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Authors

  • Bob Kauflin is a pastor, songwriter, worship leader, and author with over thirty-five years of experience. After serving as a pastor in Sovereign Grace Ministries for twelve years, he assumed the role of Director of Sovereign Grace Music in 1997. Through conferences, seminars, and his blog (www.worshipmatters.com), he seeks to equip pastors, musicians, and songwriters in the theology and practice of congregational worship. He is currently one of the pastors at Sovereign Grace Church in Louisville, KY, led by C.J. Mahaney. Bob and his wife Julie are blessed with six adult children and an ever-growing number of grandchildren.

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  • Stephen Wellum is professor of Christian theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He received his MDiv and PhD from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is the author of numerous essays, articles, and books. He is also the co-author with Peter Gentry of Kingdom through Covenant, 2nd edition (Crossway, 2012, 2018) and the author of God the Son Incarnate: The Doctrine of the Person of Christ (Crossway, 2016) and Systematic Theology, Volume 1: From Canon to Concept (B&H Academic, 2024).

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  • David Schrock is the pastor for preaching and theology at Occoquan Bible Church in Woodbridge, Virginia. David is a two-time graduate of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is a founding faculty member and professor of theology at Indianapolis Theology Seminary. And he is the author of Royal Priesthood and Glory of God along with many journal articles and online essays.

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