4.34 Bryan Litfin, David Schrock, Stephen Wellum • Interview • “From Nicaea to the “Nicene Creed”: Sixty Years of Confusion and Controversy”

Episode 174
68 Min
July 30, 2025
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Bryan Litfin on his Christ Over All essay: "From Nicaea to the “Nicene Creed”: Sixty Years of Confusion and Controversy"
Timestamps
  • 00:48 – Intro
  • 04:15 – Introducing Dr. Litfin’s Book on the Trinity
  • 05:30 – What Has Helped Dr. Litfin to be a Good Storyteller?
  • 07:18 – What Is
  • 10:44 – Why Does the History Around the Nicene Creed Matter?
  • 13:08 – Did the Council of Nicaea Anticipate the Fight that was Going to Come?
  • 15:10 – The Legend of Saint Nicholas
  • 17:13 – The Demise of Arius
  • 19:35 – How Did Athanasius Become a Main Figure in the Fight for Orthodoxy?
  • 24:38 – Athanasius’ Two Volumes Against the Arians
  • 26:25 – The Different Theological Groups Around the Time of Nicaea
  • 30:26 – How Athanasius Made His Arguments
  • 32:20 – History of the Political Influence Between 325-381
  • 34:24 – The Cappadocians
  • 37:56 – Why Was There Less Participation in the Time of Theodosius?
  • 39:57 – What Changes Took Place in the Statements Between 325 and 381?
  • 42:38 – Why Was There Not as Much Said about the Holy Spirit?
  • 48:14 – The Pneumatomachians
  • 50:27 – What Conception Did They Have in Terms of the Spirit’s Saving Power?
  • 53:08 – The Nicene Fathers’ Understanding of the Church and Baptism
  • 56:08 – Should We Go Back to the Apostolic Fathers to Clarify Our Doctrine?
  • 1:00:57 – A Trinitarian Approach to the Gospel
  • 1:03:57 – The Trinity and Salvation
  • 1:06:21 – Outro
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Authors

  • Bryan M. Litfin (Ph.D, University of Virginia) is Professor of Bible and Theology at Liberty University. This article is adapted from his new book, The Story of the Trinity: Controversy, Crisis, and the Creation of the Nicene Creed (Baker, 2025). Bryan is married to Carolyn, and they have two adult children. Bryan and Carolyn worship at Rivermont Evangelical Presbyterian Church. He may be reached at www.bryanlitfin.com.

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  • David Schrock is the pastor for preaching and theology at Occoquan Bible Church in Woodbridge, Virginia. David is a two-time graduate of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is a founding faculty member and professor of theology at Indianapolis Theology Seminary. And he is the author of Royal Priesthood and Glory of God along with many journal articles and online essays.

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  • Stephen Wellum is professor of Christian theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He received his MDiv and PhD from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is the author of numerous essays, articles, and books. He is also the co-author with Peter Gentry of Kingdom through Covenant, 2nd edition (Crossway, 2012, 2018) and the author of God the Son Incarnate: The Doctrine of the Person of Christ (Crossway, 2016) and Systematic Theology, Volume 1: From Canon to Concept (B&H Academic, 2024).

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