5.08 Charles Lyons, Jordan Howe, Trent Hunter, & David Schrock • Interview • “Protestors are Coming to Your Church Are You Ready? Twenty-Five Action Steps Before the Day Comes”

Episode 206
58 Min
February 4, 2026
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock & Trent Hunter interview Charles Lyons and Jordan Howe on their respective articles for Christ Over All and Center for Baptist Leadership
Timestamps
  • 00:25 – Intro
  • 03:43 – The incident at Cities Church Hits Close to Home
  • 06:08 – How David Met Charles Lyons
  • 08:00 – Charles Lyons’ Story
  • 22:32 – Having a Plan in Place
  • 26:23 – Distinguishing Between Different Incidents & What to Do
  • 28:48 – How to Onboard Well for a Safety Team
  • 33:08 – What Did It Look Like for the Ushers to Remove Disruptors?
  • 37:32 – What Should Be Said to Them? What Type of Force is Righteous in that Situation?
  • 41:54 – The Value of Having Song and Other Strategies to Have in Mind
  • 45:50 – The Mind of the Pastor in the Moment to Act
  • 49:00 – Closing Thoughts & Ending on a Note of Song
  • 54:10 – Closing Prayer from Trent
  • 55:58 – Outro

 

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