3.27 Joe Rigney, Michael Carlino, David Schrock • Interview • “The SBC Isn’t Drifting, It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage”

Episode 110
47 Min
June 3, 2024
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as a Joe Rigney and Michael Carlino join David Schrock to discuss Joe's book Leadership and Emotional Sabotage and to apply the lessons from this book to the Southern Baptist Convention.
Timestamps
  • Intro – 00:28
  • Joe Rigney’s Time and Interest in the SBC – 03:26
  • The Genesis of Joe Rigney’s Book and Edwin Friedman 05:45
  • Rigney’s Influence on Michael Carlino – 10:18
  • How Do We See the Sin of Empathy Being Worked Out in the SBC Today? – 13:34
  • Friedman’s Fable Regarding Empathy – 16:35
  • Neutralizing the SBC and the Progressive Gaze – 21:54
  • Being Fractured and Frustrated – 26:14
  • Sensing the Steering – 27:22
  • How Does the Law Amendment Help the SBC to Not Be Steered? – 29:43
  • Feminism and Femininity -33:21
  • Women Should Not Be the Barometer for the Church – 36:04
  • The Female Gaze – 38:21
  • Deborah, Barak, and Jael – 39:51
  • The Levites Being Able to Suppress Brotherly Affection – 41:49
  • Closing and Outro – 45:16
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Authors

  • Joe Rigney serves as Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrews College in Moscow, Idaho. He is the author of six books including: Live Like a Narnian: Christian Discipleship in Lewis’s Chronicles (Eyes & Pen, 2013) and Courage: How the Gospel Creates Christian Fortitude (Crossway, 2023). He is married to his wife, Jenny, and they have three children.

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  • Michael Carlino is a PhD student in Systematic Theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (SBTS) in Louisville, Kentucky. He is a graduate of Lancaster Bible College and SBTS. He currently serves as the Operations Director for the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood and as the Student Associate for the Mathena Center for Church Revitalization at SBTS. He has written several published articles and reviews, including If Christ Is Not Savior, He Cannot Be Liberator: A Response to Ibram Kendi. He is a member of Kenwood Baptist Church at Victory Memorial and serves as one of the youth group leaders.

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  • David Schrock is the pastor for preaching and theology at Occoquan Bible Church in Woodbridge, Virginia. David is a two-time graduate of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is a founding faculty member and professor of theology at Indianapolis Theology Seminary. And he is the author of Royal Priesthood and Glory of God along with many journal articles and online essays.

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