4.25 Will Spencer, David Schrock, Stephen Wellum • Interview • “The Dangerous Secret Your Young Men Are Keeping: Neo-Nazi Thought Has Entered the Church”

Episode 165
94 Min
June 9, 2025
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Will Spencer on his Christ Over All essay: "The Dangerous Secret Your Young Men Are Keeping: Neo-Nazi Thought Has Entered the Church"

 

Timestamps
  • 00:24 – Intro
  • 06:01 – Why Christ Over All Published this Piece
  • 07:07 – What Was Will Spencer’s Aim With His Piece?
  • 09:16 – What Was Illuminating for Dr. Wellum?
  • 11:06 – Defining the Manosphere, and 4Chan
  • 14:44 – The ‘Expert’ Claim and Will’s Testimony
  • 18:29 – Is There A Growing Need to Know What It Means to Be a Man?
  • 22:14 – Has Social Media Made a Difference in the Way Men Interact?
  • 24:36 – Is Father Famine a Necessary Condition for Neo-Nazi Ideology?
  • 28:40 – Is ‘Neo-Nazi’ a Helpful Term?
  • 33:42 – What Changed Will’s Mind on Leaning Towards Neo-Nazi Ideology?
  • 39:16 – What Kind of Arguments are Being Made?
  • 41:40 – The Political Ramifications of a Christian Prince
  • 46:46 – The Six Hour Stone Choir Podcast
  • 51:35 – The Place of White Men Today
  • 56:45 – Picking Our Role Models Carefuly
  • 59:17 – Fighting as Christians & Addressing Women
  • 1:03:34 – Is There a Place to Ask Questions about Historical Revisionism?
  • 1:09:15 – Membership in a Church Regarding The Question of Neo-Nazism
  • 1:23:12 – The Problem of Porn vs. The Problem of Neo-Nazism?
  • 1:27:28 – Stone Choir’s View of Evangelism
  • 1:32:05 – Outro 
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Authors

  • Will Spencer is a storyteller and adventurer who journeyed from Stanford University and the Dotcom Boom through thirty countries. He's explored spiritual traditions worldwide: from meditation in the Himalayas to ayahuasca retreats in the Amazon. The Lord found him at the Burning Man festival in Nevada. Now he hosts The Will Spencer Podcast and helps men find their way back to Christ and reclaim their God-given authority. He is part of Reformation Presbyterian Church in Mesa, AZ. You can learn more by visiting https://willspencer.co.

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  • David Schrock is the pastor for preaching and theology at Occoquan Bible Church in Woodbridge, Virginia. David is a two-time graduate of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is a founding faculty member and professor of theology at Indianapolis Theology Seminary. And he is the author of Royal Priesthood and Glory of God along with many journal articles and online essays.

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  • Stephen Wellum is professor of Christian theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He received his MDiv and PhD from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is the author of numerous essays, articles, and books. He is also the co-author with Peter Gentry of Kingdom through Covenant, 2nd edition (Crossway, 2012, 2018) and the author of God the Son Incarnate: The Doctrine of the Person of Christ (Crossway, 2016) and Systematic Theology, Volume 1: From Canon to Concept (B&H Academic, 2024).

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