4.54 Marc Minter, David Schrock & Stephen Wellum • Interview • “Liberty, Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State”
Episode 194
67 Min
November 24, 2025
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock & Stephen Wellum interview Marc Minter on his Longform essay, "Liberty Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State"
Timestamps
00:48 – Intro
05:52 – Marc Minter and His Academic Aspirations
10:30 – The State of Political Theology in the SBC
14:48 – Influences on Political Theology
19:00 – The Significance of Everson v. Board of Education 1947
21:42 – How This Case Shaped Subsequent Generations’ Worldviews
24:27 – Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists
30:10 – How Much Did Jefferson’s Views Change Between 1776-1802?
33:37 – The Distinction Between Reformation and Enlightment Traditions
37:55 – The Two Notions of the Term ‘Separation’
43:05 – Have We Adopted an Anabaptist Tradition of Church & State?
45:47 – E.Y. Mullins’ Views on the State
49:10 – Mullins’ Interjection into the Baptist Faith & Message
58:48 – What Should Pastors Do In Light of All This?