4.57 Levi Secord, David Schrock, & Stephen Wellum • Interview • “Law is King: How the Bible Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government”
Episode 197
59 Min
December 15, 2025
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Levi Secord on his COA Longform Essay: "Law is King: How the BIble Shapes Our View of Law & Civil Government"
Timestamps
00:30 – Intro
03:38 – The Background Behind Servant Not Savior
05:11 – What are Some Things that Need to be On Our Radar as We Discuss This Subject?
08:15 – Walking Us Through the History from the King to the Law
10:27 – The Place of Natural Law
13:15 – Where in the Bible Do We Encounter Rutherford’s Ideas?
15:49 – Nations Making Covenants
21:00 – What is the Responsibility of Christians to Remind the Government of Their Role Before God?
22:57 – Who’s Role is it to Preach Before the Government?
29:00 – Political Theology is not Just from the Old Testament
31:32 – How Should We Read the OT Law to the King and Apply It Today?
36:50 – How Does Progressive Covenantalism Apply the Law?
40:22 – The Principle of General Equity
42:03 – What Can Nations Learn from Israel? From the Church?
47:20 – Good Government is the Exception to the Rule
51:25 – The Case for Bringing the Bible to the Public Square
54:50 – Natural Law is Not Devoid of Special Revelation
